17."We all understand how important it is to see an end to the violence in Ukraine, to see an end to conflicts around the world," Trudeau told Bloomberg during the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Peru, which took place between Nov. 15-16."That requires a level of engagement with counterparts who in many cases we disagree with."Scholz spoke with Putin on Nov. 15 for the first time in nearly two years. The German chancellor condemned Russia’s war, urged Putin to withdraw his troops, and discussed potential talks with Kyiv.The call sparked anger in Ukraine, with President Volodymyr Zelensky saying the conversation opens a "Pandora's box" for further engagement and that "it is extremely important for Putin to loosen his isolation, Russia's isolation."Trudeau added that Canada and other partners are closely engaging with Zelensky and that "it's a good thing that there are conversations around this, but the level of trust that I have for Vladimir Putin is probably at an all-time low right now.